Death in Cambodia, Life in America Podcast

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Dr. Sophal Ear - Esteemed Academic and Writer

Dr. Sophal Ear, a Cambodian refugee, transitioned from escaping the Khmer Rouge to a successful academic and writer, advocating for Cambodian history education. Influenced by his upbringing and mother's determination, he shifted from medicine to political science and economics. His work includes critiquing Western supporters of the Khmer Rouge, a TED Talk, and a documentary about his family's escape, inspiring Cambodian Americans.

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Dr. Patrick Heuveline: A Sociologist and Khmer Rouge Expert

Season 3 of "Death in Cambodia, Life in America" features Dr. Patrick Heuveline, an expert on the Khmer Rouge regime's aftermath. We explore the regime's long-term effects, including mental health impact, family structure changes, and generational trauma. The discussion highlights the importance of dialogue, historical documentation, and diaspora contributions to Cambodia's development.

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Nick Coffill - Author of the book “Photography in Cambodia: 1866 to Present”

Nicholas Coffill's huge passion for live theatre, performances, and sharing a cultures history through photography and music - lead him to create one of the first ever fully developed photography books about Cambodia today. His book "Photography in Cambodia: 1866 to the Present" is one of the most beautiful coffee table books enriched with photography from ancient times, up until modern day Cambodia. His experience in museum curation allows this book to feel like you are walking through a "museum of photos" that tell the story of Cambodia's past. In this epsiode we discuss how Nick ended up in Cambodia, where did the origins of the book idea come from, and how this book has impacted the lives of Cambodians.

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Catherine Filloux - Award Winning Playwright of the Only Cambodian-U.S. Rock Opera

For the past three decades, award-winning artist, playwright, and librettist Catherine Filloux has been traveling to conflict areas creating art that addresses human rights and U.S. complicity. Her plays and operas about Cambodia include: “Eyes of the Heart” and “Photographs from S-21” and she is the co-founder of Theatre Without Borders. “Where Elephants Weep”, the only Cambodian-U.S. rock opera, aired on Broadway on Demand from April 14 to 23, 2023, in time for the Cambodian New Year, with an accompanying conversation by Filloux and composer Sophy Him.

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Myra Torcheux - A Cambodian Orphan in France

Myra Torcheux has her masters from The London School of Economics and aspires to change policies for children's rights. Much of her passion for this career is driven by her experience growing up in France as an adoptee. I mentioned via social media that I am passionate about highlighting stories that deserve more attention, one storyline being the great amount of orphans that came out of the Khmer Rouge. We brought Myra onto the podcast for her to share her experiences, her struggles with her identity, and more. Here is a summary of her dissertation to learn more!

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Sochanvimean Vannavuth Ph.D - How has the Khmer Rouge Effected this Generation?

I am popping out of retirement to introduce you to someone that I absolutely HAD to interview. Sochanvimean or as I call him Vimean , is a Cambodian Ph.D Psychologist at UCSB who is passionate about how the mental health and generational trauma is cultivated through traumatic expereinces such as the Khmer Rouge. We dig into Vimean's past growing up in Cambodia, and how his passion for offering more mental health services lead him to getting the education he has today.

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Season Finale - Farewell to Robert

Robert and I share our last recording together as we close this chapter. We finalize the season by discussing what Robert has learned over the years, how he would have done things differently, and what he hopes everyone will takeaway from this podcast. We discuss topics like revenge, forgiveness, the legacy he hopes to leave behind, lessons of life and so much more.

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Special Guest - Angela Wu aka The Sassy Asian Therapist

Today we bring on Angela Wu LMFT aka the Sassy Asian Therapist to bring on a professional light on what generational trauma is, and how we can cope with it as second generation asian Americans. We discuss this idea of trying to "fix" our parents as children of refugees, tactics to handle generational trauma, how we can start the conversation of healing with our parents and many more!

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Special Guest - David Edsall Law

David and Robert met when they were both young and starting their their careers. While Robert was building his long train of shops up along highway 99, he met a nice lawyer from Camarillo, CA who was willing to help Robert on reading documents and any legal situations he was in. To this day, David is just a phone call away for any of Robert's legal issues. David has helped him navigate everything from signing on a new store, to maneuvering through the painful lawsuits that Robert has encountered. It was a blessing to have David on to talk about not only his experiences through the lawsuits, but also bring in a 3rd party perspective on what was happening, and what exactly went down with the fall of Golden Bake.

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S2 Episode 16: The Fall of Golden Bake

Robert discusses the lowest point in his life in America - when a family member and business partner who he trained from the ground up, stabbed him in the back and pushed him out of his own company. He talks about being depressed, angry, and turning to alcohol to release himself from the pain. Robert felt he spent his whole life working and sacrificing for this company, and only to have it be taken away by greed and jealousy was the twist he never ever expected. I hope that highlighting this story can help the second generation community do better for ourselves, and learn that the only way for us to move forward as a community is to uplift each other, not tear each other down.

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S2 Episode 15: The Growth of Golden Bake

Robert reflects on his past and the different obstacles he faced as he ran 4 different companies at once. We dive into topics like how people viewed him, jealousy, family perceptions and more. He recalls an instance where we attends a wedding where nobody actually knew who he was and he witnessed (and even joined in!) on the gossip about this mysterious man who ran Golden Bake. He remembers the great times, watching this company become the pride and joy of the Cambodian community. Robert then dives into the gigantic issue that he was faced with.

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S2 Episode 14: The Rise of Golden Bake

Robert continues to grow B&H in Northern California and ended up doing so well that he surpassed his Southern California counterpart. They had an agreement when they first decided to join together that Robert's territory was Northern California and his friend was Southern. However, the counterpart started getting jealous and crossing into Northern California territory. Robert let it drag on for 9 years until he eventually had to file a lawsuit. It was a sad time to feel like he has to be pushed to do such a thing within his own community. Robert also discusses his health sacrifices and surviving 2 strokes during this building process.

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S2 Episode 13: Crabs in a Bucket Mentality

Robert discusses the cultural downfalls of the Cambodian culture that he first realizes when he tries to grow his business. He notices that there is a lack of community and help when he comes to supporting their own Cambodian people, which we call "crabs in a bucket" mentality. Robert does his best to create this community and despite the pushback, continues to move forward and grow the business.

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S2 Epsiode 12: The Beginning of B&H Bakery Distributors

Robert and I take it back to discuss how he went from a silent investor to running the Northern California division of B&H Bakery Distributors. Robert believes it was a great idea from the very beginning to supply his own community with the ingredients they needed to run their donut shops. After building the donut shops up along California, Robert already had the donut network he needed to kickstart the supply company. B&H Bakery Distributors being in Northern California while his family still in Southern California meant that he only spent 1 day a week at home. We discuss how his sacrifices and lack of family time has impacted his relationship with the family today.

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S2 Episode 11: Church's Fried Chicken and Winchell's Donuts

Robert continued on with his growth mindset and built donut shops until he hit South Lake Tahoe where he lost money due to renting the shops to owners with gambling problems. He then decided that he was going to tackle Church's Fried Chicken when he found out of an opportunity to take over their locations with the idea of potentially turning them into donut shops. Robert goes national with his dreams and even tries to strike a deal. We truly learn that Robert at this point in his life is willing to tackle any challenge that life throws his way. He also tried to tackle Yum Yum Donuts when they tried to sell their locations. We learn about the history of donut shops in California and why some of them may just be Yum Yum Donuts converted to Cambodian donut shops.

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S2 Episode 10: "If I have money, I have everything"

Robert scales up the state of California taking 6-8 months at a time building donut shops all along highway 99. Robert backpacks his way just building one shop after the next with no intention of stopping. He has become borderline obsessed with his process of building donut shops. Robert talks about never taking a day off and how the culture he was raised in believed that if he had money, he had everything. Robert reflects on his life and realized how crazy he was to work and think like that.

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Dear Fellow Survivors - A Khmer Message From Robert

Today, I released the video called Dear Fellow Survivors. This video feels like the accumulation of what the podcast represents so far: healing. My goal is and always has been to heal as many remaining survivors as possible, and this video is the kickstart. Todays release is an audio version of Robert's speech, however if you don't understand Khmer, I would recommend to check out the YouTube video that includes english subtitles.

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2 Week Intermission - Back on June 19th!

I will be taking a 2 week intermission from launching episodes to refresh, plan, and manifest the future of this podcast. If you haven't seen, we were on CBS National TV a few weeks ago, and I feel nothing but gratitude for the opportunity to represent the Cambodian American community through this podcast. (still pinching myself!)

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S2 Episode 9: The Gift of the American Dream

Robert continues to build donut shops throughout California. In this epsiode we talk about Robert's chase towards the American Dream and why he fought so relentlessly towards it. I ask Robert how he has the willpower to keep going, and what his mindset was like as a new refugee in America. This episode was a huge eye opener for me on how refugees look at their life in America as a second chance to life. And how being in a country that allows you to dream, made him feel he had no other option but to chase it.

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